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Reply #4 - 06. Feb 2015 at 14:49

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Reply #3 - 15. Jan 2013 at 17:37

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All Enterprise Agreements are on the FWA website:

http://www.fwc.gov.au/index.cfm?pagename=agreementsfind

Test both the employer and agreement title for your keywords to see if an enterprise agreement is in place. If nothing appears then there is no agreement in force which applies. If no agreement is in force then the pay and conditions will be governed by the relevant modern award which when it comes to  Security workers it is the Security Services Industry Award 2010

http://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/modern_awards/award/MA000016/default.htm

However if your work involves cash in transit then it is the Transport (Cash in Transit) Award 2010

http://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/modern_awards/award/MA000042/default.htm

If you apply for a job and the employer produces an agreement and it is current but was made before 2010 then contact the Fair Work Ombudsman to find out if certain clauses in the agreement are still legal under the Fair Work Act. If there is a payscale in the agreement it must the same if not better than the base rate of pay that would be payable to the employee under the modern award (the award rate).

The other thing to remember is that agreements, even though they have expired ie gone past the time period, are still enforceable until they are terminated either by management or by the employees.

On the FWA agreements search page you can download a list of agreements which have been terminated. Also changes to agreements made at the time they are approved are generally not incorporated into the body of agreements. Check the agreement Variations list to determine if the agreement you are interested in has been varied and if so there is a link to the decision.

 

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Reply #2 - 15. Jan 2013 at 15:32

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Is there a way on the FWA Website where you can check any company to see if they have this type of setup?

I'm currently looking for a new employer in Brisbane but I would never work for any company that has a BS arrangement in place like this
 

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Reply #1 - 15. Jan 2013 at 11:20

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Prime Protection Services has a current enterprise agreement:http://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/agreements/wpa/CAEN085703529.pdf

Its time span for this agreement is from 2008 to 2013 and was approved back in the Workchoices  period which means that the terms and conditions probably not would pass the fairness test of today or the processes that brought it into being. It lacks a lot of the conditions that are contained in the Security Services Industry Award 2010. It appears that it was a Greenfields agreement which meant that the all the conditions were favorable to the company. These days a Greenfields agreement must be negotiated between the company and the union who would cover the prospective workers.

They only employ on a casual basis:
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9 Engagement

9.1 Each Employee's employment is casual in nature and is on an hourly basis. Each shift's employment will be regarded as a separate engagement and stand alone. The terms and conditions contained in this Agreement shall have application to each engagement. Each Employee will be engaged on an "as needs" basis and there is no guarantee of regular employment with the Employer or placement with any client of the Employer.


There is only one job classification in the agreement that of Security Officer Grade 1. They pay a flat rate of pay $20.00 per hour and $40.00 per hour on public holidays under this agreement. I do not know what they pay now or whether they are required to pay the current pay scales for a casual under the Fair Work Act 2009.
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206  Base rate of pay under an enterprise agreement must not be less than the modern award rate or the national minimum wage order rate etc.
If an employee is covered by a modern award that is in operation
                 (1)   If:
                            (a)   an enterprise agreement applies to an employee; and
                            (b)   a modern award that is in operation covers the employee;
the base rate of pay payable to the employee under the agreement (the agreement rate) must not be less than the base rate of pay that would be payable to the employee under the modern award (the award rate) if the modern award applied to the employee.



The current payscale for a Security Officer Grade 1 casual in NSW is $21.70 ph day shift $25.59 ph night shift, $30.66 ph Saturday, $39.63 ph Sunday and $48.59 ph on public holidays.

I would check with the Fair Work Ombudsman to see where you stand regarding current pay and conditions under this agreement. I personally would not work for this company because of the opportunistic chance it took to create an agreement which was deliberately designed to disadvantage its workers.
 

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15. Jan 2013 at 02:52

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Hi

Anyone any any experience with this company?

Thanks.
« Last Edit: 15. Jan 2013 at 02:53 by Solotech »  

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